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An evening with Prashant Jain

Posted by Muthu on June 11, 2013

Prashant Jain is one of the well respected names in the fund management industry. He is the CIO (Chief Investment Officer) of HDFC mutual fund. Very few can boast of long term track record as he has. He is intelligent, soft spoken, balanced and share good insights.

Some of the IFAs (Independent Financial Advisors) in Chennai had the opportunity to listen to and interact with him for close to 2 hours last week. I was one among them. I want to share few things below based on this meeting. This piece is based on what I know and have been sharing with you, what perspectives Prashant shared with us plus my own understandings and observations on the points discussed. So it’s a mixture or muesli or kitchidi:-)

1)     What’s important is to take a broad view for long term. This ensures that we’re not blinded by day to news and events. Media focuses on negative news because it sells. Consistent, day to day growth which increases the earnings do not make interesting read and hence ignored. Even in these tough times, earnings have been growing at 15%.

2)     At current levels markets are trading at less than 14 PE (for FY14). This is lesser than long term averages. Though Sensex is at similar level to 2007, when PE was 28, the PE is now 14, implies earnings have doubled in the last 5 tough years. At 15% annualized growth, the Sensex earnings may cross 2000 in next few years. So it would not be surprise if market touches new highs in the years to come.

3)     Markets are heavily polarized with some large cap and high quality companies being very expensive and the broader markets being cheap. As interest ratings are peaking, lower rates would be supportive of higher PEs. Earnings growth and higher PEs would lead to good results for investors.

4)     I was surprised to know that the land under agriculture in India is higher than that of China. We are self sufficient in food, vegetables, minerals etc. This is one of the few places where one gets sunshine through out the year. Till few centuries back, India contributed to 25% of the world GDP. We’ve been growing despite politicians and corruption. We have more number of entrepreneurs in the world.

5)     Every decade after independence, the GDP is growing. Despite volatility in growth rates, it has been in the secular, sustainable, high growth trend. Growth will continue till we get saturated with higher base. For example, in 2001, 3% of our households owned a car. Now it has trebled to 9% of household. It is expected to touch 20% of house holds in 2020. Till 100% of households owns a car (there are countries which have more cars than households), the high growth trajectory can be maintained by an economy. So it looks like we would have good growth rate in the decades to come.

6)     When the economy is in such a growth trajectory, it is wiser to own equities. Companies, hence equities, will do well in such economies. GDP growth is followed by earnings growth which is followed by equity valuations. Indians missing out a lot by under owning equity. Mutual funds own 3.4% of the total equity which is down from 7% ten years ago. Public shareholding has come down to 14.2% from 22.7% during the same period. FIIs have always been net buyers (except two years- Pokhran nuclear test & 2008 Lehman crisis) and they are the ones who are benefiting the most by our growth story.

7)     Equities are less risky and volatile over long term. Hence it makes sense to invest regularly and also when PE levels are lower. Lump sum investments may be avoided at higher PEs, which is where most investors come and invest. The saving grace is that because of our growth in earnings, even those who invest at higher PEs don’t loose out in the long run, though their returns would be muted. The best option is regular and disciplined investing.

8)     The slowing of growth rate is actually good as it reduces inflation which would reduce interest rates which would increase investments which would increase growth and so on. Slowing consumption is necessary to fix the imbalances in the economy and will overtime result in higher and better quality of growth. As always, these things would continue to be cyclical. As we are in the secular long term uptrend, for an investors who invest regularly and for long term, these cycles don’t matter and in fact can even be helpful.

9)      Gold has had a strong bull run over a decade and medium to long term outlook for it look weak. North America’s growing strength in hydro carbon and shale gas may stabilize or lower the oil prices in the medium term. A weak gold and oil prices can do wonders to our deficit and economy. Le us hope for the best:-)

10) In tough times, we tend to think good times never come and in good times, we tend to think it would last forever. Nothing is farther from truth. The truth is things are cyclical and you would do well if you are disciplined in investing and asset allocation. India and its equity markets offer a great scope for building long term wealth. Make use of it to reach your goals and fulfill your aspirations.

8 Responses to “An evening with Prashant Jain”

  1. Usha said

    Packed with information. Thought- provoking and reassuring. Thank you Muthu!

  2. Milind said

    Thank you Muthu.Prashant jain as we all know is the SOUL Of HDFC MF from Investors point of View.Probably the only other person as close in aware Investors mind is Shankar NAREN. For my My retirement corpous creation I am depending on Top 200 and its only because of Prashant I have selected Prudance and Equity for my other lifes goals.To change fund style though i have taken exposure to Shankar Narens ICICI,Keneths Premier equity and Apoorvas Top 100 ,Prashant remains my favourite along with Shankar NAREN.

    THANK YOU FOR SHARING HIS INSIGHTS.In current Gloom and Doom ,its certainly reassuring

  3. shinu said

    Have anybody ever heard anyone of the fund gurus saying the market is overvalued or it is not the time to invest….
    They have to promote that every time is a good time – it is their bread and butter…. 🙂

    with current valuations we can only console ourselves that the downside is limited, so losing capital is low and continue to expect a turnaround/ bounce in the near future even if it is not shooting up one way suddenly.

  4. Chetan said

    1. BSE Sensex Earnings for March-2014 will be around Rs 1325 most optimistically. BOFA-ML has it at Rs 1300. In 2008 it was around Rs800 so it has not doubled yet as claimed by Mr. Jain.

    2. Sensex Earnings has been flat in FY2012-13 and is expected to be most optimistically 8% for FY 2013-14. Not sure where is he getting the 15% number.

    3. In his interview couple of years ago [See CNBC Archives] he was the one who said SENSEX P/E will taper to low teens and thus a forward P/E of 14 is reasonable, IMO.

    4. Mr. Jain is probably the best fund manager on a 10 year basis. But in the last 3 to 5 years all of his funds are loaded with only Frontline Stocks and no Turnaround Stories or Potential Multibaggers.

  5. Completely agree with Shinu.
    Yet to see a Fund Manager who is negative on markets or on the Fund he manages!!!

  6. Very thought full information, it will give positiveness of Equity investments, pl do write these type of article sir, thanks all the best.

  7. Kishor said

    Hello Muthu ji,
    Good noon,
    Its been long i haven’t come across some interesting & intriguing post from your side. I generally eagerly wait for it all the time.

  8. mahesh kapadia said

    from 1995 to 2013 hdfc equity fund give 30 time returne..tell me what new in it.?.property raise more then this…42 time returne to me…why to take tension…if we have long term money….

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